The two brothers Johannes and Peter Paul were born in Niedersalbach/Saarland and then lived in Obersalbach.
Niedersalbach was disputed between Lorraine and Nassau-Saarbrücken. In 1766 it came to Nassau-Saarbrücken as part of an exchange.
Obersalbach belonged to the dominion of Kriechingen-Püttlingen and came to Nassau-Saarbrücken in 1778.
The ancestors of the emigrants Johannes and Peter Paul:
Barbara PAUL ca. 1640 - ⚭ 1660 was the first verifiable member of the PAUL clan. She is also called "Barbara vom Berg".
Her husband was Jacob Philipp (KIRCH) KIRSCH ca. 1630 -1684.
│ • Hyronimus PAUL ca. 1660-1736 ⚭1684 Anna Gertrud KRÄMER ca.1658-1742
│ │ • Sebastian PAUL ca. 1684 - 1750
│ │ • more children
│ │ • Johann PAUL ca. 1707 - ca. 1760 ⚭ 1731 Magdalena LÖW 1712 - ca. 1760
│ │ │ • Johannes PAUL 1739 - ⚭ 1777 Barbara KREUZER 1756 -
│ │ │ │ • Johann Nikolaus PAUL 1778 -
│ │ │ │ • Johann PAUL 1780 -
│ │ │ │ • Johann Adam PAUL 1782 -
│ │ │ │ • Johannes PAUL 1788- ⚭ 1814..1815 Elisabeth ca. 1790 -
│ │ │ • Peter PAUL 1742 - ⚭ 1774 Margaretha TRENZ 1753 -
│ │ │ │ • Peter PAUL 1789 - 1822 ⚭ 1807 Margaretha LÖB 1791 -
The brothers Peter and Johann Paul emigrated with their families to Galicia together with their cousin Nikolaus Dirk. The living conditions in Saarland and the course of this emigration from Saarland to Krasna correspond to those of Nikolaus Dirk. You can read about them under his name.
The PAUL brothers were registered together with Nikolaus TÜRK on July 10, 1784 in Vienna1.
Note:
In WK1 the numbers of people between Johann and Peter seem to have been swapped.
Paul Johann 6 Pers. Obersalbach, WK 202/44Paul, Johann * 25.05.1738, |
Paul Peter 5 Pers. Obersalbach WK 202/41Paul, Peter * 13.09.1742 |
Like Nikolaus Dirk, both families were settled as private settlers in Huszka near Sitaniec in the district of Zamosc2.
Family members of the Paul clan born in Galicia - like Nikolaus Dirk * 1769- migrated on to Krasna in Bessarabia in 1814.
Hopf's (Krakow) list of emigration from Poland (Duchy of Warsaw) to Russia3 mentions the following Paul:
- Paul, Johann 1814 Hrubieszow/Lublin/Dutchy of Warsaw Russia 634 5434261, single, no further details.
- Paul, Michael 1814 Zamosc/Lublin/Dutchy of Warsaw Russia 634 5434261 with family
Wife: Marianne
Children: Johann, Peter, Marianne
- Paul, Peter 1814 Zamosc/Lublin/Dutchy of Warsaw Russia 634 5434261 with family.
Wife: Marianne
Son-in-law: Johann Ternes
Children: Johann, Elisabeth Anna
- Paul, Peter 1814 Hrubieszow/Lublin/Dutchy of Warsaw Russia 634 5434261 with family
Wife: Margaretha
Children: Michael, Joseph, Jakob
Only 612, Paul, Johann and 615 Paul, Peter appear in documents in Krasna.
Nothing could be found out about the whereabouts of the others.
Johannes PAUL * in 1788 (Sitaniec, Poland).
Parents: Paul, Johann * 25.05.1738 Obersalbach oo 03.06.1777 with Kreutzer, Barbara * 04.03.1756 Reisweiler.
His age was estimated on the basis of the following sources, because church register entries from Sitaniec are not available for the period in question:
Children born in Krasna to Johann in the Krasna baptismal register:
Document from the State Archives of the Odessa Oblast, Odessa, Ukraine; fond no. 6, inventory no. 1, file no. 1398.The document states that Nikolaus Oberling (Oberlyn) and his wife Juliana, together with Johann Paul and his wife Elisabetha and their daughters Gertruda and Margaretha, asked to be allowed to leave Krasna and return to the Zamosc district in Poland. Their application was accompanied by a declaration from the Committee for Foreign Settlers in Southern Russia, according to which they would have to repay part of their accumulated savings to the government in accordance with Tsar Alexander's decree of 1801. The application was submitted on November 5, 1820.
Although it is not clear from the other documents in this group that they were allowed to return to Poland, the tone of the documents suggests that they did leave the country.
The documents in Krasna confirm this assumption.
There are no further references for Johann Paul, his wife and their two daughters, e.g. baptisms, marriages, death dates.
The picture is the same for the Oberlyn family.
First settler in Krasna # 82 PAUL, Peter (1792), wife LÖB, Margareta
The clan lived in Krasna until the resettlement in 1940. PAUL, Josef * 21.07.1938 was the last person born in Krasna with the surname Paul.
Eduard Volk
Neuwied, Oktober 2024
Eduard's ancestor is Klemens VOLK